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Character Counts, Religious or Not

Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:06:34 GMT

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clipper's remarks: John Shelby Spong

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Vice presidential candidates Joe Biden and Sarah Palin will debate this week.
What would you ask them about their religious beliefs and why?

I would support no candidate for national office who sought to impose a narrow religious viewpoint on our multifaceted nation or one who would appoint religiously ideological candidates to the Supreme Court. So it would not occur to me to question them about their religion unless they had given some indication that they were in fact religious imperialists. I appreciate our pluralistic society.

I regard Sarah Palin's support of "Creation Science" being taught in public school to be primarily a manifestation of ignorance, not religion, and I do not want ignorance in any national office. I also regard homophobia not as a religious issue, but as an issue in which prejudice overcomes knowledge.

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Religion Begets Prejudice

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:45:57 GMT

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clipper's remarks: ....
Today it is from this same part of America, the most overtly religious part, that most of the hostility toward equality in the pursuit of justice for gay and lesbian people comes. The question that should be asked is: What is there about religion in general and Christianity in particular that continues to fuel the prejudices of our day?

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Far from my religion tempering my prejudices, racial prejudice was actually instilled in me by my evangelical Christian church. I grew up in North Carolina in what we call the Bible Belt. My church taught me that segregation was the will of God and quoted the Bible to prove it. It taught me that men were by nature superior to woman and quoted the Bible to prove it. It taught me that it was o.k. to hate other religions, and especially the Jews, and quoted the Bible to prove it. It taught me that homosexual persons were either mentally sick or morally depraved and, of course, quoted the Bible to prove it. So the idea that being religious might make one less prejudiced is a fantasy. It appears to make people more prejudiced, or at the least, not to confront their prejudices.

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Chaplains Serve Soldiers

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:52:46 GMT

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clipper's remarks: Given that attitude they feel attacked by “the devil” when prayer and Bible readings are outlawed in public schools, when active proselytizing is stopped at the Air Force Academy and now when prayers are requested to be removed from mandatory meals at the Naval Academy. Each of these initiatives is, however, not only correct, but each brings practice into conformity with the Constitution. I rejoice in this decision.

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Chaplains are in the military to serve the spiritual needs of our service men and women. They are not imposed on those who do not choose to avail themselves of their services. No one should have the religion of another imposed upon him or her involuntarily. Saying prayers at meals that are mandatory is an imposition. This would be especially true if the prayers assume a particular view of God, which all prayers seem to do. The ACLU is absolutely correct to make this request.

America was founded on the principle of religious liberty and the separation of church and state. Yet in many parts of America the majority religious viewpoint of the community was imposed upon the public schools and its symbols displayed in public places. Majority religious traditions are delusional in their understanding of imperialism regarding religious truth. That is how we get claims of inerrant scriptures and infallible popes.

Tags: united states, army, religion

Spong: Spitzer's Compulsive Behavior and Ours

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:09:42 GMT

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clipper's remarks: so deep in western civilization which has been fed so constantly by the Christian faith? Of course! Eliot Spitzer is simply the latest example of a rampant sexism that treats women as objects who are less than human. People will quickly forget Governor Spitzer and his high priced prostitute will not even be a footnote in history. I do wish we could some day realize that humanity is fully expressed in both males and females.

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My first observation about the Eliot Spitzer affair is that compulsive sexual activity is a human disease like compulsive gambling or compulsive drinking. It should be treated psychologically, but human beings seem to enjoy making moral judgments, especially when compulsive behavior appears in the political arena. Watching the mighty fall is viewed as a popular sport.

Second, the Eliot Spitzer situation says that in this day of electronic eavesdropping behavior that once was private now quickly and easily becomes public. In 950 B.C. King Solomon, a powerful king, had a thousand wives. Is that much different? Presidents, including Thomas Jefferson, William McKinley, Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Jack Kennedy and Bill Clinton have all participated in illicit sexual relationships. Elliot Spitzer is no different.

Is it admirable? No! Does it make him a bad governor? No!

Does this behavior among powerful male figures have anything to do with sexism that is

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Fervor Can Move Us or Manipulate Us

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:48:54 GMT

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clipper's remarks: president with no vision of his or her own, nor do I want a president who will not listen to the will of the people and seek to be in dialogue with them. In that way fervor and passion will serve the nation.

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Obama does elicit fervor. Is fervor somehow considered to be a mark of religion? Perhaps it is for some, but fervor alone is not necessarily an asset. Billy Graham elicits fervor. So did Adolf Hitler. The issue is whether the fervor leads the candidate and the nation in the right direction.

Some presidents seek to reflect the point of view on issues they discover in focus groups. Lyndon Johnson was famous for that. Some are ideologically oriented and try to sell the people on following their lead in moving the country in their direction. Ronald Reagan and Franklin Roosevelt were both successful presidents in doing just that, even though on opposite sides of the ideological fence. Others seek to impose their own ideological perspective on the nation when they have no mandate to do so. The results are usually destructive. George W. Bush is the most recent illustration of that.

A politician’s vision must always be in dialogue with the people that politician hopes to lead.

I do not want a

Question Faith? Fear Not

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:44:44 GMT

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Clip Source: newsweek.washingtonpost.com

There is a vast difference between the experience of God and the explanation of that experience. God cannot be captured in human words, but human concepts of God can be.

Those concepts are, however, always time warped and time bound as all things are when reduced to words. If one does not question, doubt and challenge his or her own faith assertions and creedal affirmations, then one becomes an idolater. God becomes little more than our own creation.

The Bible is a human explanation of the God experience, first of the Jews, then of the Christians. The Bible is, therefore, not the “Word of God” in any literal sense. It is a human creation. So are the creeds, doctrines, dogmas and traditions of the Christian Church. The idea that anyone would suggest that it is inappropriate to question these human concepts lies somewhere between the ridiculous and the absurd.

Only people and institutions fearful of the adequacy of their version of truth would suggest otherwise.